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    Default Ta'aruf !! Ehl-e-Bait ......!!







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    Just one Question: I have seen Ahle-Bait which are Sunni and also Shia? Please put some light on this?

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    Hazrat woh ahle baiet nahi woh sayed kahlate hien . ahle baiet jin ka ziker opper he woh he hien.

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    Especially in Pakistan and India we use word "SAYED" or Shah Sahib and they called themselves from the family of Rasool Allah (pbuh) means Sons of Sayedna Imam Hussain (RA). This means they are also from Family of Rasool Allah. If you come in Arab, they use word Ahle Bait. But Arabs are different than us. They don't treat Sayed like India and Pakistan. They just know each other by families like Bhatti or Khokhar or Malik. My question was: I have seen SAYED in Pakistan SHIA and SUNNI, what is difference because they called themselves Ahle Bait. In Pakistan you can see HAMDANI, they are pure Ahle Bait and migrated from HAMDAN (Afghanistan or Iraq) and same time in Pakistan there are Moosvi, they are Shia and giving reference about Imam Musa Kazim (RA). We in Pakistan and India, treats Sayed Family as Ahle Bait because they are Sons of Sayedna Hussain.

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    Quote Mohammed Ishaq said: View Post
    Especially in Pakistan and India we use word "SAYED" or Shah Sahib and they called themselves from the family of Rasool Allah (pbuh) means Sons of Sayedna Imam Hussain (RA). This means they are also from Family of Rasool Allah. If you come in Arab, they use word Ahle Bait. But Arabs are different than us. They don't treat Sayed like India and Pakistan. They just know each other by families like Bhatti or Khokhar or Malik. My question was: I have seen SAYED in Pakistan SHIA and SUNNI, what is difference because they called themselves Ahle Bait. In Pakistan you can see HAMDANI, they are pure Ahle Bait and migrated from HAMDAN (Afghanistan or Iraq) and same time in Pakistan there are Moosvi, they are Shia and giving reference about Imam Musa Kazim (RA). We in Pakistan and India, treats Sayed Family as Ahle Bait because they are Sons of Sayedna Hussain.
    Hazrat eik bat yeh ke itan knowlege mery pas nahi he . koey kahta he ke Imam hussain RA ke sare family ko shaheed kar diya tha to oladoon se hi nasel chalti he dosri bat nassel baap se cahlti he . ab nabi pak PBUH ke koye ola nar nahi thi to yeh sayed kiuoon kar banee. ab shiya wali bat to pahle woh muslim to bane sayed banan bahut door ke bat he. aru sunni bahye to sayed wla muamila ulima kram per chor dete hien ya jsi ko koye maolmat ho to sahre kar de . shukriya

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    Dear Reehab,

    App say guzarish hay k app apni ki gai post main galati kar bahtahay hai Please osay durast kar lain Nabi pak Salalah o Alay wasalam kay Chacha Sayad us Shuhada Hazrat Amir Hamza Radiallah Tala Anhu ka nam e nami ismay girami app shayad Bhol gain hain please app un ka bhi tarof pesh farmadain Thanks.

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    hazrat eik bat yeh ke itan knowlege mery pas nahi he . Koey kahta he ke imam hussain ra ke sare family ko shaheed kar diya tha to oladoon se hi nasel chalti he dosri bat nassel baap se cahlti he . Ab nabi pak pbuh ke koye ola nar nahi thi to yeh sayed kiuoon kar banee. Ab shiya wali bat to pahle woh muslim to bane sayed banan bahut door ke bat he. Aru sunni bahye to sayed wla muamila ulima kram per chor dete hien ya jsi ko koye maolmat ho to sahre kar de . Shukriya
    ''بِسْمِ اللّٰہ ِ الرَّحْمٰنِ الرَّحِیْمِ نَحْمَدُہ وَ نُصَلِیّ عَلیٰ حَبِیْبِہ الکریِم ''’’حضرت عمر بن خطاب رضی اللہ عنہ فرماتے ہیں کہ میں نے حضور نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم سے سنا کہ آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم فرماتے : قیامت کے دن میرے حسب و نسب کے سواء ہر سلسلہ نسب منقطع ہو جائے گا۔‘‘

    الحديث رقم 24 : أخرجه الحاکم في المستدرک، 3 / 153، الرقم : 4684، والطبراني في المعجم الکبير، 3 / 44، الرقم : 2633، 2634 - 2635، وفي المعجم الأوسط، 5 / 376، الرقم : 5606، وعبد الرزاق في المصنف، 6 / 163، الرقم : 10354، والبيهقي في السنن الکبري، 7 / 63، الرقم : 13171، والمقدسي في الأحاديث المختارة، 1 / 197، الرقم : 101، وَقَالَ : إِسْنَادَهُ حَسَنٌ، والديلمي في مسند الفردوس، 3 / 255، الرقم : 4755، والهيثمي في مجممع الزوائد، 9 / 173، وقال : إِسنادُهُ حَسَنٌ.
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    ’’حضرت جابر رضی اللہ عنہ سے روایت ہے کہ حضور نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے فرمایا : ہر ماں کے بیٹوں کا آبائی خاندان ہوتا ہے جس کی طرف وہ منسوب ہوتے ہیں سوائے فاطمہ کے بیٹوں کے، پس میں ہی ان کا ولی ہوں اور میں ہی ان کا نسب ہوں۔‘‘

    وَقَالَ الْحَاکِمُ : هَذَا حَدِيْثٌ صَحِيْحُ الإِسْنَادِ.

    الحديث رقم 25 : أخرجه الحاکم في المستدرک، 3 / 179، الرقم : 4770، وأبو يعلي في المسند 2 / 109، الرقم : 6741، والطبراني في المعجم الکبير، 3 / 44، الرقم : 2631 - 2632.
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    ’’حضرت عمر رضی اللہ عنہ سے مروی ہے کہ میں نے حضور نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم سے یہ سنا آپ صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم فرماتے : ہر عورت کی اولاد کا نسب اپنے باپ کی طرف ہوتا ہے سوائے اولاد فاطمہ کے کیونکہ میں ہی ان کا نسب اور میں ہی ان کا باپ ہوں۔‘‘

    الحديث رقم 26 : أخرجه الديلمي في مسند الفردوس، 3 / 234، الرقم : 4787، والهيثمي في مجمع الزوائد، 4 / 224.
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    ’’حضرت جابر رضی اللہ عنہ سے مروی ہے کہ حضور نبی اکرم صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم نے فرمایا : یقیناً اﷲ تعالیٰ نے ہر نبی کی اولاد اس کی صلب میں رکھی اور بیشک اﷲتعالیٰ نے میری اولاد علی بن ابی طالب کی صلب میں رکھی ہے۔‘‘

    الحديث رقم 27 : أخرجه الطبراني في المعجم الکبير، 3 / 43، الرقم : 2630، والديلمي في مسند الفردوس، 1 / 172، الرقم : 643، والهيثمي في مجمع الزوائد، 9 / 172، والمناوي في فض القدير، 2 / 223.
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    Eik to bat kiya ho rahi hote he aru kahan chale jate he me ne kaha kiya aaj ke dore me un ke nisab se hien yeh sayed theek hien.. khier yeh bahut bara muamila he ..

    aur ahle baiet me cahcaha mamo ate hien ager ate hien to aap wazeh karein aur ahly beit ka matlab sekh lien ya sekah dien kahm kha logo ka zahen ko kahrab mat karye.....shukriya
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    mashallah subhan allah

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    Eik to bat kiya ho rahi hote he aru kahan chale jate he me ne kaha kiya aaj ke dore me un ke nisab se hien yeh sayed theek hien.. khier yeh bahut bara muamila he ..

    aur ahle baiet me cahcaha mamo ate hien ager ate hien to aap wazeh karein aur ahly beit ka matlab sekh lien ya sekah dien kahm kha logo ka zahen ko kahrab mat karye.....shukriya
    kia app apni ki gai post ko kud nahi patay is post main jo app nay Chaha or Phopio ka zikar kia hay akhri page par or sat hi likha hay hay kay muzkora bala hastiain hi Ahle bait hain us ki kia wajaha hay yah sabaq tu app hi ham nakis ul ilm logo ko paraha rahain hain tu phir zara is ko expalin kar dain kay jab Chacha ahle bait main nahi atay tu phir app nay is thread main Nabi Pak salalah o alay wasalam kay chachao ka zikar Q kia, koi bat buri lagi hu tu sorry

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    kia app apni ki gai post ko kud nahi patay is post main jo app nay Chaha or Phopio ka zikar kia hay akhri page par or sat hi likha hay hay kay muzkora bala hastiain hi Ahle bait hain us ki kia wajaha hay yah sabaq tu app hi ham nakis ul ilm logo ko paraha rahain hain tu phir zara is ko expalin kar dain kay jab Chacha ahle bait main nahi atay tu phir app nay is thread main Nabi Pak salalah o alay wasalam kay chachao ka zikar Q kia, koi bat buri lagi hu tu sorry
    hazrat sorry iek chiez woh yeh ke jahan chacha ka naem he wohan dekhe do dafa Hazrat abbas bin mutlib do dafa psot howi he kash aap log yeh note kar lete ke tabat me ghalti ho sakti he. is liye ghore se aap ko bhi parhne ki zarorat he. bus tankeed na kiya kare. dosra jo he harat abbas bin mutlib ko hazrat hamza RA tasawer kiya jaye ... shukriya..

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    Quote Reehab said: View Post
    hazrat sorry iek chiez woh yeh ke jahan chacha ka naem he wohan dekhe do dafa Hazrat abbas bin mutlib do dafa psot howi he kash aap log yeh note kar lete ke tabat me ghalti ho sakti he. is liye ghore se aap ko bhi parhne ki zarorat he. bus tankeed na kiya kare. dosra jo he harat abbas bin mutlib ko hazrat hamza RA tasawer kiya jaye ... shukriya..
    yah Tanqid nahi thi bal'k app ki tabat main jo galti thi main nay sirf us ki nisah dahi ki thi please app os ki tashi farmalain Thanks

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