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    app usse se kehna keh wo unn mujaddin jinka hawala mirza ghulam qadiani ne apni kuttub man likha ha, wo scanned images send kare,
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    Quote iqu-76 said: View Post
    Yeh Msg hai us Qadyani ka


    MIRZA
    NAY JIN MUJADID KO TASLEM KIA HAI HUM UN KI AYYAT KI TAFSER DEKHTAY
    HAIN K UNHO NAY IS AYYAT KA KIA TARJUMA KIA HIA ....... jeb aap ke mutabik aap Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani ( AS ) NAY JIN MUJADID KO TASLEM KIA HAI un ka un ka TARJUMA manet ho to fir es mai koi sek nhi hoga chahiye ki aap Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani ( AS ) ne jo kaha hai us ko bhi manet hoge . PHER UN KA KIA HOWA
    TARJUMA TUM BHI MANO GAY OR MAIN BHI BOLO MANZOOR HAI ...?????
    baat yaha mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani ki nahi bulkay un ki ho rahe hia jin ko mirza nay khud mujadid tasleem kia hia ..... khyun k mirza say pehlay kese nay bhi wafat maseeh ka quran say tarjuma nahi kia ... sewai mirza k ....... jab mirza ko mantay he nahi to us ka tarjuma kaisay manaingay .......... haan jin ko mirza nay mujadid tasleem kia hia un ka tarjuma mian bhi manonga or tum bhi ....... bolo manzoor hia ?
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    baat yaha mirza ghulam ahmed qadiani ki nahi bulkay un ki ho rahe hia jin ko mirza nay khud mujadid tasleem kia hia ..... khyun k mirza say pehlay kese nay bhi wafat maseeh ka quran say tarjuma nahi kia ... sewai mirza k ....... jab mirza ko mantay he nahi to us ka tarjuma kaisay manaingay .......... haan jin ko mirza nay mujadid tasleem kia hia un ka tarjuma mian bhi manonga or tum bhi ....... bolo manzoor hia ?
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    Weldone Nasir bhai
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    Naya Jawab us Qadiani ka

    . jab mirza ko mantay he nahi to us ka tarjuma kaisay manaingay
    ....... jeb aap azrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani ( AS )ka tarjuma nhi to fir aap ke mutabik un ke TASLEM kia MUJADID KA tarjuma kaisay manaingay???

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    Quote iqu-76 said: View Post
    Naya Jawab us Qadiani ka

    ....... jeb aap azrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani ( AS )ka tarjuma nhi to fir aap ke mutabik un ke TASLEM kia MUJADID KA tarjuma kaisay manaingay???
    khyun k woo humare bhi mujadid hain ........ or mirza nay bhi un ko mujadid taslem kia hia ......... 1300 saal main kese mujadid nay bhi QURAN k tarjumy main hazrat ESA A.S ki wafa ka nahi likha sewai mirza k ....... eik taraf 1300 saal k hazaron ki tadad main mujadid or doosri taraf eik mirza ....... ab faisla khud karlo k insaaf kes taraf hai ...... agar QURAN mina hazrat ESA A.S ki wafat ka likha hai to mirza ko 52 saal tak hazrat ESA A.S ki wafat ka howa nazar q nahi aya ....... QURAN ko woo loog bhi perhtay hain jin ki apni zaban arbi hai un ko bhi wafat-e-maseeh ka likha howa nazar nahi aya ...... jab k mirza khud kehta hai k mujhay hazrat ESA A.S ki wafat ka elm ELHAAM k zariea howa hai ......is say pehlay mirza ko hayat-e-maseh ka elhaam bhi howa hai ...... mirza ko hazrat ESA A.S ki wafat ka elm elhaam k zariea hona dalel hai is baat ki k QURAN main kahe bhi hazrat ESA A.S ki wafat ka nahi likha ........
    ab tum ya to mirza k elhaam per bat karlo ..... agar mirza k elham sachay howay hain jaisay ( MUHAMMADI BAGEM SAY SHADEE , MACCA YA MADEENA MAIN MARNA ect.) to hum wafat-e-maseh ka aqeeda bageer kese DALEEL k maan laingay ....... ya pher un mujadid ki tafser per baat karo jin ko khud mirza nay mujadid tasleem kia hai khyun k woo humare bhi mujadid hain or hum unhay mantay hain jis terha aap ka mirza un ko manta hai ........

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    Ab Yeh Qadiyani kehta hai

    khyun k mirza say pehlay
    kese nay bhi wafat maseeh ka quran say tarjuma nahi kia ....... Imam Shaltut's Fatwa
    Perhaps the single largest threat to the orthodox Islamic view of Jesus from its own community is from Imam Shaltut a deep and powerful Islamic scholar who became the highest Islamic authority of the most prestigious Muslim school on earth, Al-Azhar University. In October, 1958, he became Rector of Al-Azhar University. His religious and scholastic credentials within the world of Islam were impeccable. He issued a “fatwa” (decree) stating that God promised Jesus a natural death.
    1. The Holy Quran and Sacred sayings of the Prophet of Islam do not support the belief that Jesus is alive in heaven now.
    2. The Quranic verses show that God had planned for Jesus to die a natural death and not die at the hand of those trying to crufify him
    3. Anyone not believing Jesus to be alive in heaven is not contravening any Islamic belief.

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    Quote iqu-76 said: View Post
    Ab Yeh Qadiyani kehta hai

    khyun k mirza say pehlay
    kese nay bhi wafat maseeh ka quran say tarjuma nahi kia ....... Imam Shaltut's Fatwa
    Perhaps the single largest threat to the orthodox Islamic view of Jesus from its own community is from Imam Shaltut a deep and powerful Islamic scholar who became the highest Islamic authority of the most prestigious Muslim school on earth, Al-Azhar University. In October, 1958, he became Rector of Al-Azhar University. His religious and scholastic credentials within the world of Islam were impeccable. He issued a “fatwa” (decree) stating that God promised Jesus a natural death.
    1. The Holy Quran and Sacred sayings of the Prophet of Islam do not support the belief that Jesus is alive in heaven now.
    2. The Quranic verses show that God had planned for Jesus to die a natural death and not die at the hand of those trying to crufify him
    3. Anyone not believing Jesus to be alive in heaven is not contravening any Islamic belief.
    yaha kese powerful scholer ki baat nahi ho rahe mujadid ki baat ho rahe hia ...... baat ko gole mat karoo ...... mirza nay jin ko mujadid taslem kia hai un ki bat ho rahe hia ... yeh bataio k mirza nay jin ko muadid taslem kia hai un ka kia aqeeda hai hazrat ESA A.S k mutaliq ........

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    Ye baat ko goll karaha ha, kionkeh iske paas reference hi nahin.

    1300 sadioun man jitne bhi mujadideen aye unka iss baat par ijmaa tha keh "Khatm-e-Nabuwwat deen ka asool ha."

    Man yahan Mirzai Akbar Baig ke muun par thappar marne ke lye aik Reference de raha hon, uss hasti ka jo rehti dunya takk Hazrat Mujadid Alf-e-Sani rahimullah ke naam se yaad rahen ge.

    Daftar # 2 Maktoob # 67

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    Aap sallaho ilehe wasllam ka deen tamam sabqa deenoun ka nasikh ha, (yani tamam deenoun ki mansookhi karke siraf aur sirf Deen-e-Muhammadi saww ko nafiz karne wala ha.) Aap ki kitaab (Quran Majeed) sabse behtareen kitaab ha. Aap ki shareat mansookh nahin hogi, balkeh qayamat takk jari rahe gi. Hazrat Eesa ilehe salam nazool farma kar app ki shareat ki tarweej karen ge, aur app saww ke ummati hokar rahen ge.
    "

    Yahan se wazeh hoa keh Hazrat Eesa ilehe salam nazil bhi honge, aur ummati bhi ban kar rahen ge. aur Deen-e-Muhammadi saww ki arweej karen ge.

    Jabkeh Mirzai akbar baig kehta ha keh "Mirza qadiani se pehle kisi mujdid ne wafat-e-maseeh ka kuch nahin kaha".

    Sharam se doob kar marjaye, bara mubaligh bana phirta ha, man ne unn mujadid ka reference dia ha jinhen Mirza qadiani bhi mujadid tasleem karta ha.

    Abb iske paas ha iss daleel ka jawab ?

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    Ye baat ko goll karaha ha, kionkeh iske paas reference hi nahin.

    1300 sadioun man jitne bhi mujadideen aye unka iss baat par ijmaa tha keh "Khatm-e-Nabuwwat deen ka asool ha."

    Man yahan Mirzai Akbar Baig ke muun par thappar marne ke lye aik Reference de raha hon, uss hasti ka jo rehti dunya takk Hazrat Mujadid Alf-e-Sani rahimullah ke naam se yaad rahen ge.

    Daftar # 2 Maktoob # 67

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    Aap sallaho ilehe wasllam ka deen tamam sabqa deenoun ka nasikh ha, (yani tamam deenoun ki mansookhi karke siraf aur sirf Deen-e-Muhammadi saww ko nafiz karne wala ha.) Aap ki kitaab (Quran Majeed) sabse behtareen kitaab ha. Aap ki shareat mansookh nahin hogi, balkeh qayamat takk jari rahe gi. Hazrat Eesa ilehe salam nazool farma kar app ki shareat ki tarweej karen ge, aur app saww ke ummati hokar rahen ge.
    "

    Yahan se wazeh hoa keh Hazrat Eesa ilehe salam nazil bhi honge, aur ummati bhi ban kar rahen ge. aur Deen-e-Muhammadi saww ki arweej karen ge.

    Jabkeh Mirzai akbar baig kehta ha keh "Mirza qadiani se pehle kisi mujdid ne wafat-e-maseeh ka kuch nahin kaha".

    Sharam se doob kar marjaye, bara mubaligh bana phirta ha, man ne unn mujadid ka reference dia ha jinhen Mirza qadiani bhi mujadid tasleem karta ha.

    Abb iske paas ha iss daleel ka jawab ?

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