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**Reehab** · 22nd June 2011, 01:06 AM

Eik bar phir ikhtalafi posts.. lagta he action karwa parhe ga ..
meri point of view se waseela ke bajye dirct mange jaye magar nabi AS sahab karam RA aur ALLAH ke wkaye niek bando ka waseela ke wasta de kar dua mage jaye koey harj nahi he . ab mera swal he iek taraf yahn per ahlehadeeso se bat howi thi ke ALLAh pak sheh rag se bhi ziyada kareeb he jsi per ahlehadees saaf mukar gaye ke woh sirf arsh par he etc. to phir waseela ka darama ahlehadeeso ne start kar diya why? iek jaga tick jao wran har jaga per sirf mujh se mar parhe ge pata bhi nahi chale ga ..

**Nasir rana1** · 22nd June 2011, 01:56 AM

Reehab said:

Eik bar phir ikhtalafi posts.. lagta he action karwa parhe ga ..
meri point of view se waseela ke bajye dirct mange jaye magar nabi AS sahab karam RA aur ALLAH ke wkaye niek bando ka waseela ke wasta de kar dua mage jaye koey harj nahi he . ab mera swal he iek taraf yahn per ahlehadeeso se bat howi thi ke ALLAh pak sheh rag se bhi ziyada kareeb he jsi per ahlehadees saaf mukar gaye ke woh sirf arsh par he etc. to phir waseela ka darama ahlehadeeso ne start kar diya why? iek jaga tick jao wran har jaga per sirf mujh se mar parhe ge pata bhi nahi chale ga ..

bhai ake taraf to ap kah rahe hain ke tafarqay na dalo
aur dosri taraf ap ki post ka yah hall hai ap ne yaha sawal kar kefull tafarqa dalne ki koshish ki hai

jahalat ki intaha hai

khair mein ap ki is post ka jawab nahi daina chahta
q k mein nahi chahta tafarqa parhe ,,, aur agar reply ke ashad zarorat ho to pm kar dijye ga ap ko pm mein jawab mil jaye ga,,
ALLAH hum sub ko smgh de,,
ameen

**Reehab** · 22nd June 2011, 10:47 AM

me ab se apa kse sare post par compalin kane laga hoon .. is forums per ikhtalafi posts allow nahi he rule ko ghore se parh lo. musalman aaj kal bhut buri halat me hien is liey 1888 ke bane howe jamat ke logo ko ikhtalafi posts allow nahi he . woh bus pessy kamane amrica jaye un ka sath din ke islam ko kessy kahtam karna he samjhe aap...

**LOVE2ISLAM** · 22nd June 2011, 11:22 AM

اسلام علیکم محترم ناصر رانا بھائی جی
جزاکم اللہ خیرا

اتنی عمدہ تحریر ہے کہ جتنی تعریف کروں کم ہے ہر بات پر قرآن واحادیث مبارکہ کے سنہری موتیوں جیسے دلائل
اس تحریر کو چارچاند لگا رہے ہیں بھائی اس کو جتنی بار بھی پڑھیں علم بڑھتا ہے اور حق مزید نکھر کر سامنے آتا ہے
اللہ تعالٰی ہم سب کو حق بات سمجھنے کی توفیق اور عمل و تحقیق کی نوید عطا فرمائے آمین
انشاء اللہ یہ تحریر حق کے پیاسوں کے لیے ایک بہترین علمی بیان ثابت ہوگی پلیز ایسا عمدہ کام جاری رکھیں
اللہ تعالٰی آپ کو اسکے ہر لفظ ہر عظیم انعامات عطا فرمائے آمین

**Reehab** · 22nd June 2011, 02:36 PM

lol lol lol

ji han jari rakhien essy kaam jis se acha bhla muslaman bhi nimazo se jaye amal se jaye keep it up..

**zubairrox** · 22nd June 2011, 02:58 PM

yar plz rehab bhai me ab post nahi karo ga, apke ke kehne ki waja se bus in logo se ek sawaal poochna hai ke ye log waseele ko mante hai ya nahi, mene teen hadeese post ki hai bukhari shareef ki aur is post me inhone khud bhi kaafi ayaat o hadees post ki hai waseele per lekin phir bhi nahi maan rahe. kyu. by

**Nasir rana1** · 22nd June 2011, 03:02 PM

Reehab said:

lol lol lol

ji han jari rakhien essy kaam jis se acha bhla muslaman bhi nimazo se jaye amal se jaye keep it up..

zubairrox said:

yar plz rehab bhai me ab post nahi karo ga, apke ke kehne ki waja se bus in logo se ek sawaal poochna hai ke ye log waseele ko mante hai ya nahi, mene teen hadeese post ki hai bukhari shareef ki aur is post me inhone khud bhi kaafi ayaat o hadees post ki hai waseele per lekin phir bhi nahi maan rahe. kyu. by

mein koi bhe tabsra kiye begair bus itna kaho ga
ALLAH rabul izzat humein sidhay rastay per chalaye

Ameen,,

**Reehab** · 22nd June 2011, 04:18 PM

zubairrox said:

yar plz rehab bhai me ab post nahi karo ga, apke ke kehne ki waja se bus in logo se ek sawaal poochna hai ke ye log waseele ko mante hai ya nahi, mene teen hadeese post ki hai bukhari shareef ki aur is post me inhone khud bhi kaafi ayaat o hadees post ki hai waseele per lekin phir bhi nahi maan rahe. kyu. by

me bhi yahe kahoon ga jo mante hein woh mane jo nahi mante woh na mane magar yahan per iktlafa na ho is liye chup hoon aaj kal ke dore me ikhtalaf se ziyda piyar aru muhabbat se kam lena ho ga. saudia wale ache hien yar koye maslaki jang nahi her banda iek imam ke peeche nimaz parhta he na masjdion me koye chekho pukar etc. es hum ho jaye to hum kahan se kahan pahucnh jaye

**Nasir rana1** · 22nd June 2011, 04:54 PM

reehab said:

me bhi yahe kahoon ga jo mante hein woh mane jo nahi mante woh na mane magar yahan per iktlafa na ho is liye chup hoon aaj kal ke dore me ikhtalaf se ziyda piyar aru muhabbat se kam lena ho ga. Saudia wale ache hien yar koye maslaki jang nahi her banda iek imam ke peeche nimaz parhta he na masjdion me koye chekho pukar etc. Es hum ho jaye to hum kahan se kahan pahucnh jaye

جزاك الله واحسن الجزاء في الدنيا والآخرة

**azkraja** · 27th June 2011, 08:46 PM

Bahayyo larahi mat karo, jehan tak main nay parha hai, kay wasila sirf zinda aur naik lagoun ka hota hai, na kay intiqal shuda shakhs ka, baqi koi Alam hi is par rashni daal sakta hai, hum laug baghair parhay ya torha parh kar ya sun kar tabsara karnay lagtay hain jo kay ghalat baat hai, Ulama e karam say jawab talab karain, Allah Hum sab ko Hidayat day, ameen

**zohaibumar** · 28th June 2011, 01:17 AM

yar bhai itdunya k ghamdi na bano.. wasila e rasool tu yahoodi b manty thy and wo b ap(s.a.w) ki birth se pehly as quran says k yahodi ap (s.a.w) k waseela se dua karty tu jung k maidan main unko mushrikeen pe fatah di jati. and hamary bohat se aslaf, imamz, sofiya ka tariqa b rha ha.. imam abu hanifa ne b kisi imam (shafi ya malik) r.a k mizar pe ja k un k waseela se dua ki ha.. imam malik r.a se haroon ur rasheed ne pocha k roza e rasool (s.a.w) pe dua karty waqt moan kabba ki taraf karo ya roza e rasool (s.a.w) ki taraf tu imam sb r.a. ne farmaya " tum kis tarha apna chehra nabi (s.a.w) se phair skty ho jb k wo tumhary and tumhary baap adam (a.s) ki nijaat ka waseela hn...there are 1000 of examples.. many many from quran and ahadees e mubarika. you can talk to an aalim in this regard...
2nd ye k sahi muslim main ha k " Allah ne zameen pe haraam kr dia k wo Anbiya A.S k jism ko khay, Allah k Nabi a.s apni qaboor main zinda hoty hn and rizq diay jaty hn"
ak aur baat quran kehta ha k shaheed zinda han...khud he faisla kar lain k Nabi ka muqam zaidya bara hota ha ya shaheed ka.
ak aur baat kalma hm party hn k muhammad allah k rasool han ye nae party k wo rasool thay..and abi b aap s.a.w ka zamana he chal rha ha..
these are my point of views.. you need not to agree ...but dont b mufti here..
Aap k liay aap ki rah aur mery liay meri

**zohaibumar** · 28th June 2011, 01:23 AM

Nasir rana sb ye IT ka forum ha is pe IT pe discussion ho tu zyada fit rahy ga...aisy batain na likhain jis se majority ko iktilaf ho... Agr tableeg karni ha tu proper forums pe ja k karin aur ikhtilafi mozoat pe likhny se guraiz karin.....Aap kya is ki tableeg kr rhy hn k rasool s.a.w ki zaat hm logo ki tarha naooz billah mar k mitti ho jati ha...
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Ab Khud he tu insaf kar, Tu be bashar wo be bashar