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    The most common problems originate
    from corruption of the master boot record, FAT, or directory.
    Those are soft problems which can usually be taken care of
    with a combination of tools like Fdisk /mbr to refresh the
    master boot record followed by a reboot and Norton disk doctor
    or Spinneret.

    The most common hardware problems are a bad controller, a bad
    drive motor, or a bad head mechanism.

    1. Can the BIOS see and identify the hard drive correctly? If
    it can't, then the hard drives onboard controller is bad.

    2. Does the drive spin and maintain a constant velocity? If it
    does, that's good news. The motor is functioning.

    3. If the drive surges and dies, the most likely cause is a
    bad controller (assuming the drive is cool). A gate allowing
    the current to drive the motor may not be staying open. The
    drive needs a new controller.

    4. Do you hear a lot of head clatter when the machine is
    turned on and initialized (but before the system attempts to
    access the hard drive). Head clatter would indicate that the
    spindle bearings are sloppy or worn badly. Maybe even lose and
    flopping around inside.

    5. There is always the possibility that the controller you are
    using in the machine has gone south.

    1. If the drive spins, try booting to the A> prompt, run Fdisk
    and check to see if Fdisk can see a partition on the hard
    drive. If Fdisk can see the partition, that means that it can
    access the drive and that the controller electronics are
    functioning correctly. If there is no head clatter, it may be
    just a matter of disk corruption which commonly occurs when a
    surge hits you machine and overwhelms the power supply voltage
    regulator. It commonly over whelms the system electronics
    allowing an EM pulse to wipe out the master boot record, file
    allocations table, and primary directory. Fdisk can fix the
    master boot record and Norton Disk Doctor can restore the FAT
    and Directory from the secondaries.
    2. The drive spins but Fdisk can't see it. Try the drive in
    another system and repeat the test to confirm that Fdisk can't
    read through the drives onboard controller. If it sees it in
    another system, then your machines hard drive interface is
    bad. You can try an upgraded or replacement controller card
    like a Promise or CMD Technologies (there are others) in you
    machine after disabling the integrated controller in the BIOS,
    but if the integrated controller went south, it may just be
    symptomatic of further failures and you'd be wise to replace
    the motherboard. Trying the drive in another machine also
    eliminates the variable that your machines 12 volt power
    output being bad

    3. If you get head clatter but a constant velocity on the
    drive motor (no surging), you might try sticking the hard
    drive in the freezer for about 12 hours. This is an old trick
    from back in the days of the MFM/ESDI driver era. This can
    cause the drive components to shrink enough to make the track
    marker align with the tracks. We don't see that kind of
    platter spindle wear much anymore, but back in the old days,
    the balancing and bearings weren't as good. Still, under the
    right circumstances, it might help. It would depend on how old
    the drive is and how many hours of wear have occurred. You
    have to be quick to get your info off the drive when it works.
    Back then, the drives were much smaller, so there wasn't so
    much to copy. So, go after the important data first.

    4. The drive doesn't spin. Either the onboard controller is
    bad or the motor is bad (assuming you did try the drive in
    another machine). It's time to hit the net and local
    independent shops to see if you can locate another drive of
    the same make and model that's good. Since the drive is
    probably an older drive and no longer in distribution, your
    best bet is to find an identical used drive. If you know
    someone with the same make and model, you might be wise to try
    and persuade them to sell you their drive with an offer of
    providing them with a free upgraded drive. If you can locate
    an identical drive, start with the controller replacement ...
    this is the simplest and least invasive. If swapping the
    controller doesn't produce the desire result, you can tear
    into the drive and swap the motors. While you have both drive
    opened up to accomplish this, scrutinize the platters, heads
    and armatures. You might even hook the drive up and power it
    from a system with both drives attached. This way, you could
    see anything that deviates between the actions of both drives
    when they are initialized. Swapping patters is unlikely to
    produce any positive result. They are a balanced system like
    the tires on your car and I suspect that the balance will be
    different for each drive as will other variables.



    If the info is all that important to you, I would seek some
    professional and experience technician in your locality who
    makes his living from servicing and building computer systems
    ... not just selling them. If you have had much experience
    salvaging information from bad hard drives, your likelihood of
    success is low. In the case of soft corruption, all utilities
    have their eccentricities. Often times, Norton Disk Doctor
    will go too far (if you let it). It's wise to just let those
    utilities small steps and then have a look at the drive and
    see if you can copy it off. Norton will go so far as to rename
    directories and files, and even delete them or break them up
    into fragments which are useless.
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    Bhai mera PC aksar chalte chalte band ho jata hai, or es ke bad es ko chalana hi bohat mushkil hota hai. Screen per koch nehi ata hai. Bas bar bar check kerne se ya koch hours ke baad PC on kerne se chal jata hai.
    Or aksar hard drive se tek tek ki sounds bi a jatin hain.
    Please mujay es problem ka solution detail se bta dain. (Thnx)

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    Bhai mera PC aksar chalte chalte band ho jata hai, or es ke bad es ko chalana hi bohat mushkil hota hai. Screen per koch nehi ata hai. Bas bar bar check kerne se ya koch hours ke baad PC on kerne se chal jata hai.
    Or aksar hard drive se tek tek ki sounds bi a jatin hain.
    Please mujay es problem ka solution detail se bta dain. (Thnx)

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    Slam
    Bhai mera PC aksar chalte chalte band ho jata hai, or es ke bad es ko chalana hi bohat mushkil hota hai. Screen per koch nehi ata hai. Bas bar bar check kerne se ya koch hours ke baad PC on kerne se chal jata hai.
    Or aksar hard drive se tek tek ki sounds bi a jatin hain.
    Please mujay es problem ka solution detail se bta dain. (Thnx)
    وعلیکم اسلام
    Sir ager ap ki HARD DRIVE se ajeeb si sounds nikelti hain to is ka MeaN ye he ke HARD DRIVE ka MEDIA CARD Damage ho geya he oor is ka koi Solution nahi he.
    oor AAp ka COMPUTER bhi isi weja se hang ho jata he is liye Ap new Hard Drive Purchase Kerain.

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