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    اسلام و علیکم شاہ صاحب
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    JazaKALLAH Khair
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    shah sahib aap ne hazrat moosa k humkalam hone ko jasmani(hawsekhamsa se) krar de ker ALLAH KO MUJASM/MEHDOOD/FASLEY PER sabet kerney ki koshis ki he.

    1- huzrat MOOSA ne ALLAH se HUMKALAM honey ka jasmani dawa nahi kia.na hi YAHHODI/ESAI/MUSLIM esa nuzria rakhtey hain.na hi humkalam honey k waqat koi or insan gawah k toor per tha.jo dawydar ho k uss ne bhi kohtoor per ya ksi dosrey maqam per HAZRAT MOOSA OR ALLAH ka kalam suna. yeh humaisha se ROHANI hi tasawer kia gia or mana gia. SHAH SAHIB behs main is baat per zaroor nuzer rakha karin k IFTARA se buchain. BE SHUK ye bara ghuna he ALLAH HUM DOONO PE REHUM KERE.


    2- bilkul aap ne sahi farmaia k ALLAH ko kalam kerney k liey kisi mukhsoos jaga ki zaroorat nahi. HUZRAT MOOSA se kalam kerney ki bohat si rawaetain mushoor hain.

    aap HUZRAT MOOSA k humkalam (jasmani ya rohani )honey ko DALIL buna ker
    ALLAH KI KOI TURAF(DIRECTION) NAHI BUNA SUKTEY.

    ALLAH NE HUZRAT EISA KO JUSMANI TOR PER APPNI TURAF UTTAH LIA.

    merey sawal k zaroori he k AALAH KI TURAF tub hi koi jism herkat ker saktaa he k ALLAH KHUD MUJASUM,MEHDOOD OR HARKET(MOVE) KERNEY WALEY JISUM SE DOOR KISI KHASS MAQAM PER MAJOOD HO. JUB K ALLAH JISUM SE PAK(jism/matter mukhllok or fani he),LA MEDOOD OR HER JAGA MAJOOD HE yaqenen aap bhi mantey ho ge.

    braimeherbani merey sawalat ka jawab dain dalil k sath aap dosrey bhaion se mushwara ker lain. lekin is trah firar na ikhtiar kerain.is k jawab hum doono k liey zaroori he.

    ALLAH HUM DOONO KO HUDAIT DE AMEEN.

    JAWAB KA MUNTAZIR


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    Jazak Allah Irfan bhai
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    shah sahib .
    aap thhek kehtey ho k humarey turjamey main rafa hi lika jata he.
    ALLAH NE APNI TURAF ISS KA RAFAH KER LIA. RAFAH se murad hum DARJAT MAIN BULANDI(rohani taraqi) hi letain hain.

    aap zara ye clear kerain k HAZRAT EISA jisum samait kiss tarf gai.
    AASMAN per to is aiyt main aasman ka to kahin bhi ziker nahi.
    zikar to ALLAH KI TARAF HE. jo her jaga majood he.

    dalil k tor per app ne HAZRAT MOOSA K humkalam honey ko tharaia he.
    is main koi shuk nahi k ALLAH HAZRAT MOOSA se humkalam hoa tha.
    lekin ye rabta jasmani kano(hawase khmsa) se tha ye to kahin bhi bian ya sabat shuda ya dawa nahi.
    jo main ne gawah ki baat ki thi to us se murad ye tha k kisi dosery insan ne ye dawa nahi kia k usne HAZRAT MOSSA ko ALLAH SE KALAM KERTY SOONA. ta k isey JUSMANI sumjha ja seky.
    aap ne jo oper QURANEPAK ki ayiat mubarka likhi hain un se kaisey sabet ho gaia k HAZRAT MOOSA ne ye kalam apney kano se soona ya ye awaz mujasum thi.
    aisa sirf faruz kia ja suktta he na k dalil k tor per lia ja sukta he.

    mery kihal main HAZRAT EISA k waqiey ko hum 3 hison main le latain hain.TA K MAIN SUMJH SAKON.

    1-RAFAH ALLAH.

    2-HIYATE MUSIH.(RAFAH K BAAD NAZOOL SE PEHLEY)

    3-NAZOLEY MUSHI.

    1-RAFAH ALLHA....
    FILHALL mery sawalat(mujasum,mehdood,herjaga majood) ko pending ker lety hain.
    shahid main aap ki baat na sumjh suka hoon .isliye main FARUZ ker laita hon k aap theek keh rahain hain. HAZRAT EISA KA RAFAH JUSMANI HE.

    2-HIYATE MUSIH.(rafah k baad nazool se pehley)
    is k barey main khuch batain . meherbani ho gi.

    jawab ka muntazir.

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    Quote umer1089 said: View Post
    shah sahib .
    aap thhek kehtey ho k humarey turjamey main rafa hi lika jata he.
    ALLAH NE APNI TURAF ISS KA RAFAH KER LIA. RAFAH se murad hum DARJAT MAIN BULANDI(rohani taraqi) hi letain hain.

    aap zara ye clear kerain k HAZRAT EISA jisum samait kiss tarf gai.
    AASMAN per to is aiyt main aasman ka to kahin bhi ziker nahi.
    zikar to ALLAH KI TARAF HE. jo her jaga majood he.

    dalil k tor per app ne HAZRAT MOOSA K humkalam honey ko tharaia he.
    is main koi shuk nahi k ALLAH HAZRAT MOOSA se humkalam hoa tha.
    lekin ye rabta jasmani kano(hawase khmsa) se tha ye to kahin bhi bian ya sabat shuda ya dawa nahi.
    jo main ne gawah ki baat ki thi to us se murad ye tha k kisi dosery insan ne ye dawa nahi kia k usne HAZRAT MOSSA ko ALLAH SE KALAM KERTY SOONA. ta k isey JUSMANI sumjha ja seky.
    aap ne jo oper QURANEPAK ki ayiat mubarka likhi hain un se kaisey sabet ho gaia k HAZRAT MOOSA ne ye kalam apney kano se soona ya ye awaz mujasum thi.
    aisa sirf faruz kia ja suktta he na k dalil k tor per lia ja sukta he.

    mery kihal main HAZRAT EISA k waqiey ko hum 3 hison main le latain hain.TA K MAIN SUMJH SAKON.

    1-RAFAH ALLAH.

    2-HIYATE MUSIH.(RAFAH K BAAD NAZOOL SE PEHLEY)

    3-NAZOLEY MUSHI.

    1-RAFAH ALLHA....
    FILHALL mery sawalat(mujasum,mehdood,herjaga majood) ko pending ker lety hain.
    shahid main aap ki baat na sumjh suka hoon .isliye main FARUZ ker laita hon k aap theek keh rahain hain. HAZRAT EISA KA RAFAH JUSMANI HE.

    2-HIYATE MUSIH.(rafah k baad nazool se pehley)
    is k barey main khuch batain . meherbani ho gi.

    jawab ka muntazir.








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    Jazak Allah Irfan bhai

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    Jazakallah .......

    irfan bhai ap nay boohat tafseel say samjhaya hai .......

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    shah sahib main ne jo RAFAH k mamle ko pending kerney k liye likha tha us ki waja aap ka jawab na de pana tha.aap k turjamey pe uthney waley sawalat ka tasuli bux jawab deney ki bajae app new sawal ker detey ho.mera muqsad app k nzriat ko janena he or sumjhna he na k jamate ahmaddiya k nazriat ka dufah kerna ya app ko qail kerna he.main to appni islah chatan hoon.pehley app HAZRAT MOOSA K KALAM KO DILI BUNA KER MUJH SE SAWAL KERTEY RAHEY jis ka koi taluq bhi humare mozo se na tha.ab app phir jamate ahmaddiya ka turjama le aye k rafah Q likha howa he.hlanake RAFAHA ka turjama is ayet main hum durjat ki bulundi letain hain is ki tusdeek main ker chka hoon.
    or ye turjama sirf aap ki nazar main ajeeb ho ga meri nazr main nahi.
    yahoodeon k is kol k jawab main k yahood ne HAZRAT EISA ko zillat ki moat di(naouzbillah) .Qattal,saleeb per moat(yahood k nuzdeek ye zilat ki moat he is ley maneny se inkar kia)ki nafi ker k HAZRAT EISA ki AZMAT (DARJAAT MAIN BULUNDI/ROHANI TARAQI/ALLAH KA MUKARAB HONA)bian kia.

    ager ye ghalat he to phir khch sahi nazria bhi to hona chaey.
    aap k turjamey per jo sawlat hain un ka jawab to aap dety nahi.
    oar tisara turjama to mery ilum main nahi.to phir kuch to main ne manuna he na mujboran hi sahi.

    ye kesey mumkin he k koi jism ksi lamehdood oar her jaga mojood wajood ki taruf(direction)bunaye oar herkat(move)kery.????????????
    koi to tasuli bux na sahi kable ghor hi sahi jawab dain.
    nahi to main jamate ahmaddiya k turjamey ko manuney per mujboor hoon.
    ya phir filhal FARUZ ker sukta hon k aap ka turjama theek he.
    ISILEY rafah ko pending kerny ka likha tha. ta k baqi baton pe aap se ilum hasil ker sakon.

    HIYATE MASIH (rafah k baad nazool se pehley)
    ager koi aqaid/nazriat hain to mery ilum main azafa karain nawazish ho gi.
    nahi to NAZOOLE MASIH per roshni dalain

    jawab ka muntazir

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    Quote umer1089 said: View Post
    shah sahib main ne jo RAFAH k mamle ko pending kerney k liye likha tha us ki waja aap ka jawab na de pana tha.aap k turjamey pe uthney waley sawalat ka tasuli bux jawab deney ki bajae app new sawal ker detey ho.mera muqsad app k nzriat ko janena he or sumjhna he na k jamate ahmaddiya k nazriat ka dufah kerna ya app ko qail kerna he.main to appni islah chatan hoon.pehley app HAZRAT MOOSA K KALAM KO DILI BUNA KER MUJH SE SAWAL KERTEY RAHEY jis ka koi taluq bhi humare mozo se na tha.ab app phir jamate ahmaddiya ka turjama le aye k rafah Q likha howa he.hlanake RAFAHA ka turjama is ayet main hum durjat ki bulundi letain hain is ki tusdeek main ker chka hoon.
    or ye turjama sirf aap ki nazar main ajeeb ho ga meri nazr main nahi.
    yahoodeon k is kol k jawab main k yahood ne HAZRAT EISA ko zillat ki moat di(naouzbillah) .Qattal,saleeb per moat(yahood k nuzdeek ye zilat ki moat he is ley maneny se inkar kia)ki nafi ker k HAZRAT EISA ki AZMAT (DARJAAT MAIN BULUNDI/ROHANI TARAQI/ALLAH KA MUKARAB HONA)bian kia.

    ager ye ghalat he to phir khch sahi nazria bhi to hona chaey.
    aap k turjamey per jo sawlat hain un ka jawab to aap dety nahi.
    oar tisara turjama to mery ilum main nahi.to phir kuch to main ne manuna he na mujboran hi sahi.

    ye kesey mumkin he k koi jism ksi lamehdood oar her jaga mojood wajood ki taruf(direction)bunaye oar herkat(move)kery.????????????
    koi to tasuli bux na sahi kable ghor hi sahi jawab dain.
    nahi to main jamate ahmaddiya k turjamey ko manuney per mujboor hoon.
    ya phir filhal FARUZ ker sukta hon k aap ka turjama theek he.
    ISILEY rafah ko pending kerny ka likha tha. ta k baqi baton pe aap se ilum hasil ker sakon.

    HIYATE MASIH (rafah k baad nazool se pehley)
    ager koi aqaid/nazriat hain to mery ilum main azafa karain nawazish ho gi.
    nahi to NAZOOLE MASIH per roshni dalain

    jawab ka muntazir
    Janab Irfan Bhai Ki Post Gaur Se Parhein Aap Ki ISLAH Ho Jaaye Gi INSHALLAH
    پھر میں نے خود کو دیر تلک لکھا پاگل آوارہ

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    Quote umer1089 said: View Post
    shah sahib main ne jo RAFAH k mamle ko pending kerney k liye likha tha us ki waja aap ka jawab na de pana tha.aap k turjamey pe uthney waley sawalat ka tasuli bux jawab deney ki bajae app new sawal ker detey ho.mera muqsad app k nzriat ko janena he or sumjhna he na k jamate ahmaddiya k nazriat ka dufah kerna ya app ko qail kerna he.main to appni islah chatan hoon.pehley app HAZRAT MOOSA K KALAM KO DILI BUNA KER MUJH SE SAWAL KERTEY RAHEY jis ka koi taluq bhi humare mozo se na tha.ab app phir jamate ahmaddiya ka turjama le aye k rafah Q likha howa he.hlanake RAFAHA ka turjama is ayet main hum durjat ki bulundi letain hain is ki tusdeek main ker chka hoon.
    or ye turjama sirf aap ki nazar main ajeeb ho ga meri nazr main nahi.
    yahoodeon k is kol k jawab main k yahood ne HAZRAT EISA ko zillat ki moat di(naouzbillah) .Qattal,saleeb per moat(yahood k nuzdeek ye zilat ki moat he is ley maneny se inkar kia)ki nafi ker k HAZRAT EISA ki AZMAT (DARJAAT MAIN BULUNDI/ROHANI TARAQI/ALLAH KA MUKARAB HONA)bian kia.

    ager ye ghalat he to phir khch sahi nazria bhi to hona chaey.
    aap k turjamey per jo sawlat hain un ka jawab to aap dety nahi.
    oar tisara turjama to mery ilum main nahi.to phir kuch to main ne manuna he na mujboran hi sahi.

    ye kesey mumkin he k koi jism ksi lamehdood oar her jaga mojood wajood ki taruf(direction)bunaye oar herkat(move)kery.????????????
    koi to tasuli bux na sahi kable ghor hi sahi jawab dain.
    nahi to main jamate ahmaddiya k turjamey ko manuney per mujboor hoon.
    ya phir filhal FARUZ ker sukta hon k aap ka turjama theek he.
    ISILEY rafah ko pending kerny ka likha tha. ta k baqi baton pe aap se ilum hasil ker sakon.

    HIYATE MASIH (rafah k baad nazool se pehley)
    ager koi aqaid/nazriat hain to mery ilum main azafa karain nawazish ho gi.
    nahi to NAZOOLE MASIH per roshni dalain

    jawab ka muntazir


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