manigmint mutawajo ho

[amjadattari]

fasih ud din sahab aap ne meere thread ko delete kerne ke baare main ye kaha hain kee yeh mustand tafaseer se saabit nahin aur doosra jawab yeh likha hain ke ghaib daan aur hazir nazir ALLAH ki zaat ke ailawa koi nahin to pehlee ihtiraaz ka jawab yeh hain ke doono terjamin mustanad tafaseer see sabit hain aur is ke taeed ayyate quraniya ahadees aur aqwalee ulamai islam peesh kiye ja suktee hain doosra ye ghaib daan ALLAH ke siwa koi nahin tu aap se ye sawal hain ke aap ne ghaib daan se kiya maina muard leye hain is ke baad
main is kee wasahat karo gha aur hazir nazir kee bari main likha ke yeh bhi ALLAH ke saiwa koi nahi ALLAH hazir nazir bulkel nahin keh sukte keonke yeh bargahee RUBULANNAM main gustagh HAIN ALLAH ne apnee muqbool bundon ko ghaib see nawaza hain jis per ayyate qurane shahid hee aur hazir nazir bhi yaha is baat ki wasahat ker do ke hazir se aap kya maina murad liten hain kya ALLAH humari samne hazir hain ustughferullah hazir hona mukhloq ki sifet hain khaliq ke nahin bulkee agar aap ko quran see aghai ho to aap ko pata jale gha ke sheetan bhi hazir nazir hain heerat to zaroor ho g magar yeh haqeeeqat hain
sura aaraf ka ibtitaya ayat baghor paree to pata jul jai ga baat tu bhuhat taweel ki ja suktee hain aur mazeet aap ke launguage kee mutabiq mustaand dallail bhi peesh ke ye ja suktee hain jub ke baat sulah aur safai ke andaz main ho tanqqeed barai tanqeed na ho bulkee tanqeed barai islah ho mian aap ko ghulee dil se dawat peesh kerta hoon kee aaye aur mustanad dallail see tahzeeb kee dhairee main rehker baat cheet karee ya meere thread ko restore karin is ka jawab dain yeh na hon ke is ko bhi thread ke tarah close ker diya jaye aghar aisa howa tu main aap ko kisi meghsoos firqi ka furd samajnee per mujboor hon jaon ga joallahazrat see bughz o keena rekhta hain aur ooper se sulah safai ke batien kerta hain aur ander see tahasub baz hoota ha yaa yeh kehne wala ..mustanad ha meera fermaya howa

[Ustaad]

mera bhai itne bari baat karnay say to behtar tha k aap kese mustand hadees or tafseer ka hawalay detay ......... or baat khatam ho jati ........ lakin ap nay to manazray ka chalange day dia hia .... khair ....... ALLAH aap ko samajhnay ki tufeq day AAMIN .......

[amjadattari]

ustaad ji aap ka kia hall hain
aap ko pori bat ka pata nahi ha
main na aik theard banaya ji ka is naame tha
میرے آقاصلی الللہ تعالی علیہ والہ وسلم کی 
os ko fasih ud din sahb na remove kar diya main na on sa pocha ka ku remove ha jo ka yah wala theard ha
http://www.itdunya.com/showthread.php?t=152685
is ko bi close kar diya gaya mari pori bat bi nahi soni jis ki waja sa muja yah thaerd likna para
kia ma aaap sa poch skta hoo ka on na yah kah diya ka ayat ka tarjuma tik nahi ha kis bana par kaha tha mian na on ko pm kia or kah ka jalo aap hi bata do ka is ka tarjuma kia ha kia aap alim ha ka aap ko pata ha kon sa tarjuma tik ha or kon sa ghalt
or on na alahazrat imam ahmd raza par buhtan laka kar lako karrorr ahlsunt waljamt dil azari ki ha os ka kai??????? abi to aap ka kahna sa main na do ahdisamubara pash ki ha agar aap kahta ha to main ziyda bi pash kar sakta hoo

[Ustaad]

Walikum Salam ! ALLAH ka shukar hia mian khariat say hoon ..........
khair mera bhai aap ny jo ayyat ka tarjuma HAZIR O NAZIR oe ghaib ka elm batanay wala kia hia woo waqaie sahe nahi hia ....... mera pas TAFSEER IBN-E-KASEER hia or MARIFUL QURAN jo MUFTI AZAM PAKISTAN MAULANA MUHAMMAD SHAFI R.H nay likha hia us main bhi nahi hai ........ yahe waja hai k fasih bhai nay aap k us thread ko delete kia hia .......... umeed hia aap baat samajh gai hongay ........

[amjadattari]

aap ne jo tafseer ibne kaseer aur muraful quran ka hawala diya hain tu is per yeh
jawab hain yeh donoo tafaseer isee nahi ke inhon ne tamaam tafaseer aur ahadees ka ahatta
ker liya hon in dono ailawa bhi ziyada mustaned tafaseer hain likun ghaib daan aur haziro
nazir per mazeed hawala jaat peesh kerne se pehlee apne ooper bayan kurda do ahadees ka jawab
nahi diya hain pehlee is ke bari main bataye per maseed baat ho ghee aap kehtee hain ke is site
per fiqa paraste ki ijazat nahi hain tu janab shaykut hayat sahib aap ki naak tali khulee
bundoon deobando aur wahabi izm kee ishaat ker raha hain pehlee meri baat ke jawabat deen pir
aghee dallail diye jai ghee wassalam

[amjadattari]

aap na thaerd restor nahi karn to na karn par kam sa kam apni islh to kar lein aap ko islami room main thaerd remove karna ki os ko ijazt dani chaya jo admi har farka bandi sa baltar hoo or wohi theard remove karin agar aap na asa na kiya to aik to islami room main booht sa member itdunya ki website ko chor kar chala jain ga asa member ki dil azari hoti hain ka os na itni mahnat sa thaerd post kia or os ka theard firabandi ki
nazar ho jaya aap mara is mashwara par ghur zaro kain WSLM::

[amjadattari]

bhai yah bi tik hain ka koyi jawab hi na da member khud hi bol bol kar chup ho jaya gaa?????????????????????????

[Fasih ud Din]

Maine yeh Thread aj hee dekha ... main itnee lambee choree baten nahe karun ga .. main sirf yeh kahun ga ke hazir nazir aur alim ul ghaib ke jo manee us mawad mein they wo kisi aisi tafseer se sabit karo jo authentic ho...jese tafseer ibn e kaseer aur lataad mustanad tafaseer hain...and munazrey mubahiley na maine kiye na karne ka shoq hai...aap agar kisi se mashwara ker ke aye (kisi apney forum se etc se aur unho ne sikha ker bheja) to yehi kahun ga ke ISLAM SECTION mein senkaron members rules ke mutabiq posting karte hain parhte hain mawad save karte hain samajhte hain seekhte hain aur agey phelatey hain.

yahaan fasaad dalney ki zarurat nahee hai ..okk .. and wahabi etc .. aap ko yehi aata hai bas ke falaawan yeh hai falaan wo.. kabhee in cheezon se bahir nahi aana....main aapko phir keh raha hoon ke rules ke mutabiq posting karen to INSHALLAH koi cheez agey peeche nahi hogi aur kitne members ki threads hote hain....jin mein shaz o nadar per action hota hai and jub hota hai wo fasad nahee karte....aap yahan tajaweez section mein munazre aur mawad na hee upload karen to behtar hai.

[amjadattari]

aap ka jawab kafi deer baad mosol howa is post ko baghor paree hazir o nazir ki mustaned tafaseer se tayed ho rahi hain

[amjadattari]

kia team ko or bi dalil chahya aap mara thaerd restord ku nahi kar raha

[amjadattari]

aap muja jawb ku nahi da raha
yah main chup kar jaoo

[Fasih ud Din]

Attari sahb ,,, SHAHID ka matlab hai gawahi dene walaaa "Aye Nabi Sallalaho Aleh e Wasallam ,, yakeenan hum ne hee ap ko (Rasool bana ker) gawahian dene wala, khushkhabrian sunaney wala,Aagah karney wala bheja hai"

Aap jo baat kar rahe hain ya tashree o tabeer le rahe hain wo IJMAA E UMMAT ke khelaf hai aur Nass qut'ee ke khelaf bhi hai aur yeh aqaiad saheeh nahee hain...aur QURAN E PAAK ki Tehreef e Manawi bhi hai

and aap ne jo ilm e ghaib walee baat kee shroo mein to main yeh kehna chahoon ga yeh munazra gah wala section nahee hai .. yahan aapko jawab dia tha pehle bhi magar aap ne baqaida isey munazra section hee samajh liaa ke abhi baat per baat hee hoti jaaye.

ITDUNYA ke islam section per aap befikar rahen ke members bhag jayen ge....YAHAN members aatey hain aaten rahen ge INSHALLAH...sub ke senkaron THREADS saheeh chal rahey hain...sub jante hain begher wajah ke cheez nahee khatam ki jaatee.

Aap ka 1 ghalt tabeerat wala thread move howa to itnaa shor mat machayen...agar tules ke mutabiq sharings karnee hain to most welcome aur nahee kar rahey to thread saheeh nahee thaa lehazaa wo nahi hoga restore....and aapki boht saari be manee baton ko maine us din bhi ignore ker dia tha leken 1 baat abhi zaroor kahun ga ke jo aapne kaha thaa ke ALLAH ke khelaf bughaz rakhne waley firqe ka samajh lenge....yeh sub fazool be manee baten hain.

Yahan section hai ke baat shaista tareeqe se aur adaab se ki jaaye jo ke aapki baten parhne se bilkul nazar nahee aa rahey they magar maine us din bhi ignore kia leken abhee aapko batanaa zaroori thaa.